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Larry Behrens Appears on The Jeff Oravits Show (KBTK-FM) to Discuss Gas Prices
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The Jeff Oravits Show (KBTK-FM)

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Larry Behrens

Name: Larry Behrens
Employment: Power The Future
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somewhere that ░░░░░░░░ generating get and both ░░░░░░░░ that used to generate ░░░░░░░░ mentioned Coke by shutting ░░░░░░░░ order could buy it ░░░░░░░░ somewhere else out the ░░░░░░░░ apt to pay a ░░░░░░░░ price or the prices ░░░░░░░░ up earlier that ripple ░░░░░░░░ or residents to would ░░░░░░░░ twice through our taxes ░░░░░░░░ felt that I went ░░░░░░░░ go work gambit them ░░░░░░░░ are right We see ░░░░░░░░ go through the roof ░░░░░░░░ was happening long before ░░░░░░░░ elected and took off ░░░░░░░░ what we re saying ░░░░░░░░ I m sure you ░░░░░░░░ they get through your ░░░░░░░░ up coming out and ░░░░░░░░ all got Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ fault because it s ░░░░░░░░ right now We re ░░░░░░░░ or growing up and ░░░░░░░░ guard and Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ to the government gravy ░░░░░░░░ or wind and solar ░░░░░░░░ and they have the ░░░░░░░░ to say oh crap ░░░░░░░░ of your bill Growing ░░░░░░░░ the ugric are shut ░░░░░░░░ and you wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ in your neck of ░░░░░░░░ word that cheering natural ░░░░░░░░ or nuclear get taken ░░░░░░░░ why But they don ░░░░░░░░ realize or they re ░░░░░░░░ Robert That connection That ░░░░░░░░ when they cork bats ░░░░░░░░ the grid Prices go ░░░░░░░░ and go That quick ░░░░░░░░ is we need to ░░░░░░░░ building go about We ░░░░░░░░ to build open about ░░░░░░░░ to get the price ░░░░░░░░ they get back down ░░░░░░░░ triple supply and demand ░░░░░░░░ wind and solar kept ░░░░░░░░ for that demand of ░░░░░░░░ your plants remaining that ░░░░░░░░ a long process though ░░░░░░░░ mean if if you ░░░░░░░░ saying hates us Under ░░░░░░░░ demonstration you talking to ░░░░░░░░ year period You don ░░░░░░░░ shake that loose you ░░░░░░░░ t decide to build ░░░░░░░░ power plant itself and ░░░░░░░░ the next week It ░░░░░░░░ a long time to ░░░░░░░░ anything online and any ░░░░░░░░ people that complain If ░░░░░░░░ put it here there ░░░░░░░░ anywhere so year take ░░░░░░░░ it is don t ░░░░░░░░ lower energy electricity prices ░░░░░░░░ soon Yeah you re ░░░░░░░░ right and grow up ░░░░░░░░ through practicalities and off ░░░░░░░░ earth Tell you right ░░░░░░░░ On average the Coke ░░░░░░░░ the United States are ░░░░░░░░ at about forty percent ░░░░░░░░ so vulgar crap that ░░░░░░░░ already running and so ░░░░░░░░ could be up to ░░░░░░░░ too to increase supply ░░░░░░░░ I really get help ░░░░░░░░ don t need regulatory ░░░░░░░░ t need a builder ░░░░░░░░ all Stop now you ░░░░░░░░ next point yeah take ░░░░░░░░ for built these fragrant ░░░░░░░░ is but trouble where ░░░░░░░░ folks cheering the closure ░░░░░░░░ a Coke black that ░░░░░░░░ clad probably took decades ░░░░░░░░ build up not at ░░░░░░░░ years at it was ░░░░░░░░ for decades and but ░░░░░░░░ government can shut it ░░░░░░░░ at a day that ░░░░░░░░ decades to build and ░░░░░░░░ s where we are ░░░░░░░░ re thing A result ░░░░░░░░ the government pulled the ░░░░░░░░ out from under their ░░░░░░░░ of our energy grid ░░░░░░░░ grand trying to blame ░░░░░░░░ current administration that energy ░░░░░░░░ is that what it 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lot of ░░░░░░░░ because of things are ░░░░░░░░ quite frankly and you ░░░░░░░░ a couple of live ░░░░░░░░ are right I mean ░░░░░░░░ ve got so much ░░░░░░░░ Now that there s ░░░░░░░░ demand is way up ░░░░░░░░ just growing grown by ░░░░░░░░ second Quite frankly I ░░░░░░░░ agree I may I ░░░░░░░░ when I recalled that ░░░░░░░░ and you d walk ░░░░░░░░ a computer lab york ░░░░░░░░ That s awesome and ░░░░░░░░ I work in the ░░░░░░░░ of my kids have ░░░░░░░░ right Like four or ░░░░░░░░ year old guard rail ░░░░░░░░ and and everything like ░░░░░░░░ But when you look ░░░░░░░░ the biggest energy users ░░░░░░░░ the house you mentioned ░░░░░░░░ are are ap is ░░░░░░░░ one but another one ░░░░░░░░ s creepy quote yeah ░░░░░░░░ re electric vehicle That ░░░░░░░░ the second biggest interview ░░░░░░░░ in So not only ░░░░░░░░ there a I but ░░░░░░░░ we all fall doubt ░░░░░░░░ Biden is our court ░░░░░░░░ get our cars that ░░░░░░░░ wonder if gonna goes ░░░░░░░░ read lo and behold ░░░░░░░░ need more power so ░░░░░░░░ we can get around ░░░░░░░░ next day and so ░░░░░░░░ you are just really ░░░░░░░░ s it s macro ░░░░░░░░ simple but even I ░░░░░░░░ do it You have ░░░░░░░░ dependent on their god ░░░░░░░░ not going to work ░░░░░░░░ back they can do ░░░░░░░░ fifty percent of the ░░░░░░░░ back to back negative ░░░░░░░░ No clouds no right ░░░░░░░░ doubt it will work ░░░░░░░░ the for of going ░░░░░░░░ go down roughly half ░░░░░░░░ day every single day ░░░░░░░░ so that s where ░░░░░░░░ all right now and ░░░░░░░░ all batteries or storage ░░░░░░░░ or move it If ░░░░░░░░ know solar worked it ░░░░░░░░ have worked by now ░░░░░░░░ ve been using it ░░░░░░░░ a long time we ░░░░░░░░ it Can catch you ░░░░░░░░ s happened with our ░░░░░░░░ of flurry of executive ░░░░░░░░ that Biden did I ░░░░░░░░ t going to have ░░░░░░░░ gas range anymore basically ░░░░░░░░ electrification of everything even ░░░░░░░░ heat systems as Trump ░░░░░░░░ in reverse those executive ░░░░░░░░ or are they still ░░░░░░░░ Are the answer is 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let ░░░░░░░░ just kind of find ░░░░░░░░ put it into law ░░░░░░░░ executive order Yeah we ░░░░░░░░ some of that so ░░░░░░░░ ve seen a whole ░░░░░░░░ of I mean in ░░░░░░░░ big beautiful girls probably ░░░░░░░░ best example there s ░░░░░░░░ others to but that ░░░░░░░░ of best example of ░░░░░░░░ look at are going ░░░░░░░░ prioritize what works for ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ away all these subsidies ░░░░░░░░ these other sources so ░░░░░░░░ re not picking winners ░░░░░░░░ losers any or and ░░░░░░░░ good President then can ░░░░░░░░ just come in to ░░░░░░░░ hanging up like check ░░░░░░░░ a place reduction act ░░░░░░░░ what about Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ be up with you ░░░░░░░░ it repeals a lot ░░░░░░░░ that There was like ░░░░░░░░ natural gas pact that ░░░░░░░░ path the repeal and ░░░░░░░░ know those eat crops ░░░░░░░░ either are gone and ░░░░░░░░ like that but took ░░░░░░░░ larger point It would ░░░░░░░░ I think a whole ░░░░░░░░ more to to have ░░░░░░░░ type of permanent thanks ░░░░░░░░ want a little aspect ░░░░░░░░ we re big beautiful ░░░░░░░░ is a part that ░░░░░░░░ course all their coach ░░░░░░░░ Strategic Petroleum Reserve which ░░░░░░░░ huge but another part ░░░░░░░░ You know what you ░░░░░░░░ t just how the ░░░░░░░░ coverup pull the rug ░░░░░░░░ from potential power plant ░░░░░░░░ they re like four ░░░░░░░░ years down the road ░░░░░░░░ just can t have ░░░░░░░░ government pull the rug ░░░░░░░░ from barker depth through ░░░░░░░░ regulation You can if ░░░░░░░░ are mostly taxpayer subsidized ░░░░░░░░ you can t just ░░░░░░░░ regulations so that kind ░░░░░░░░ progressive But what was ░░░░░░░░ invest in that now ░░░░░░░░ can get that going ░░░░░░░░ gives them a little ░░░░░░░░ security going to that ░░░░░░░░ The industry you can ░░░░░░░░ just do it quickly ░░░░░░░░ again It s always ░░░░░░░░ to be if they ░░░░░░░░ Don t show up ░░░░░░░░ vote in a way ░░░░░░░░ effect their pocket brought ░░░░░░░░ there s always gonna ░░░░░░░░ someone who s gonna ░░░░░░░░ their agenda over what ░░░░░░░░ practical for people to ░░░░░░░░ tax credits for like ░░░░░░░░ E visas That s ░░░░░░░░ s Like phasing out ░░░░░░░░ people rushing to to ░░░░░░░░ him and take advantage ░░░░░░░░ it minutes isn t ░░░░░░░░ end of the year ░░░░░░░░ are going to wait ░░░░░░░░ m talking like electric ░░░░░░░░ yeah you re You ░░░░░░░░ right you re going ░░░░░░░░ come up with oh ░░░░░░░░ okay yeah pretty good ░░░░░░░░ bass yeah so that ░░░░░░░░ going to become a ░░░░░░░░ market because I I ░░░░░░░░ t remember the exact ░░░░░░░░ of seven or seventy ░░░░░░░░ hundred bucks or something ░░░░░░░░ that as where credit ░░░░░░░░ there were got forty ░░░░░░░░ hundred bucks and you ░░░░░░░░ right people are rushing ░░░░░░░░ re just goes to ░░░░░░░░ that time That would ░░░░░░░░ outage people love free ░░░░░░░░ but it also talked ░░░░░░░░ that fact that hey ░░░░░░░░ know what here is ░░░░░░░░ product that we have ░░░░░░░░ improvise were built in ░░░░░░░░ you to buy it ░░░░░░░░ then it could only ░░░░░░░░ be about earn maybe ░░░░░░░░ percent of the new ░░░░░░░░ sold last year and ░░░░░░░░ that Going to be ░░░░░░░░ kite that can be ░░░░░░░░ of it is because ░░░░░░░░ couldn t each product ░░░░░░░░ works great in an ░░░░░░░░ area I ve seen ░░░░░░░░ down There are people ░░░░░░░░ to be happy with ░░░░░░░░ great more power to ░░░░░░░░ Just don t force ░░░░░░░░ to subsidize it Just ░░░░░░░░ t force me to ░░░░░░░░ it Yeah I don ░░░░░░░░ think the hybrids can ░░░░░░░░ more and more of ░░░░░░░░ of a way to ░░░░░░░░ Look I did I ░░░░░░░░ you that my Alaska ░░░░░░░░ trip and the beginning ░░░░░░░░ the summer and Canada ░░░░░░░░ begun like in British ░░░░░░░░ that only one should ░░░░░░░░ go anywhere you like ░░░░░░░░ the middle Nowhere and ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ got a small problem ░░░░░░░░ they would be like ░░░░░░░░ easy charging port and ░░░░░░░░ you got like three ░░░░░░░░ miles between towns and ░░░░░░░░ s this one little ░░░░░░░░ looking even charging port ░░░░░░░░ you know how they ░░░░░░░░ the electricity there And ░░░░░░░░ has like a sign ░░░░░░░░ you can t stay ░░░░░░░░ for more like a ░░░░░░░░ hour or something needs ░░░░░░░░ if sosa and it ░░░░░░░░ s nothing there s ░░░░░░░░ mean we re talking ░░░░░░░░ I say town there ░░░░░░░░ a gas station and ░░░░░░░░ you get to the ░░░░░░░░ gas station and then ░░░░░░░░ little lonely sad av ░░░░░░░░ and needless to say ░░░░░░░░ never saw ease up ░░░░░░░░ because you would probably ░░░░░░░░ eaten by Grizzly Bear ░░░░░░░░ you re gonna get ░░░░░░░░ Imagine a Grizzly Bear ░░░░░░░░ after you to ibiza ░░░░░░░░ guard the artery burrito ░░░░░░░░ devil but you re ░░░░░░░░ repudiate We re We ░░░░░░░░ constantly told that the ░░░░░░░░ for great the slow ░░░░░░░░ is up There are ░░░░░░░░ says it s icy ░░░░░░░░ stations around me the ░░░░░░░░ I ve ever seen ░░░░░░░░ charging station is maybe ░░░░░░░░ percent pool and I ░░░░░░░░ talking like there s ░░░░░░░░ charging station three cars ░░░░░░░░ a map that even ░░░░░░░░ can do it and 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