Ben Rhodes: ‘Highly, Highly Unlikely’ that Ukraine Takes Back Occupied Territories; They Need a ‘Credible Security Guarantee’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Velshi Yeah ░░░░░░░░ totally agree with you ░░░░░░░░ idea of talking to ░░░░░░░░ is necessary when people ░░░░░░░░ dying You got to ░░░░░░░░ That said you re ░░░░░░░░ He s so thirsty ░░░░░░░░ a deal And the ░░░░░░░░ stuff has been indicative ░░░░░░░░ that Right He said ░░░░░░░░ April that they re ░░░░░░░░ on 200 deals notwithstanding ░░░░░░░░ fact that there aren ░░░░░░░░ 200 countries I think ░░░░░░░░ ve got eight or ░░░░░░░░ like that now and ░░░░░░░░ Most of them are ░░░░░░░░ really deals They re ░░░░░░░░ even the kinds of ░░░░░░░░ So the idea of ░░░░░░░░ with Putin might be ░░░░░░░░ but he s not ░░░░░░░░ the weeds You were ░░░░░░░░ deputy national security advisor ░░░░░░░░ have to be in ░░░░░░░░ weeds about this stuff ░░░░░░░░ settling of this war ░░░░░░░░ going to be complicated ░░░░░░░░ That s right Because ░░░░░░░░ main question here right ░░░░░░░░ wants territory and he ░░░░░░░░ essentially again to control ░░░░░░░░ s future So what ░░░░░░░░ Ukrainians want because look ░░░░░░░░ m not someone who ░░░░░░░░ going to sit here ░░░░░░░░ tell you that the ░░░░░░░░ are somehow going to ░░░░░░░░ all of this territory ░░░░░░░░ they re not going ░░░░░░░░ take back crimea that ░░░░░░░░ is highly highly unlikely ░░░░░░░░ ve learned that And ░░░░░░░░ war does need to ░░░░░░░░ least stop a cease ░░░░░░░░ Now what Ukrainians need ░░░░░░░░ is a credible security ░░░░░░░░ that if that happens ░░░░░░░░ this is a frozen ░░░░░░░░ if that front line ░░░░░░░░ of ceases and maybe ░░░░░░░░ s not true peace ░░░░░░░░ each side fully accepts ░░░░░░░░ terms of the other ░░░░░░░░ the Ukrainians need to ░░░░░░░░ is that that s ░░░░░░░░ not going to lead ░░░░░░░░ Russia re invading them ░░░░░░░░ five years or 10 ░░░░░░░░ or trying to assassinate ░░░░░░░░ leaders They need to ░░░░░░░░ that there s potentially ░░░░░░░░ to be a security ░░░░░░░░ of Europeans who are ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine to secure any ░░░░░░░░ deal they want if ░░░░░░░░ NATO membership some kind ░░░░░░░░ credible security guarantee that ░░░░░░░░ can trust including the ░░░░░░░░ of weapons for their ░░░░░░░░ So the Russians don ░░░░░░░░ feel like they can ░░░░░░░░ invade them Again these ░░░░░░░░ the kind of details ░░░░░░░░ m talking about where ░░░░░░░░ needs to step forward ░░░░░░░░ the Europeans and offer ░░░░░░░░ credible package which is ░░░░░░░░ what Putin does not ░░░░░░░░ He will want Trump ░░░░░░░░ assure him that the ░░░░░░░░ will have no package ░░░░░░░░ that.”