Margaret Brennan Grills J.D. Vance for Praising Foreign Autocrat in Bed with China: ‘You Want to Mimic Him?!’

BRENNAN You gave an ░░░░░░░░ in February you said ░░░░░░░░ closest conservatives have ever ░░░░░░░░ to successfully dealing with ░░░░░░░░ left wing domination of ░░░░░░░░ is Viktor Orban s ░░░░░░░░ in Hungary I think ░░░░░░░░ way has to be ░░░░░░░░ model for us not ░░░░░░░░ eliminate universities but to ░░░░░░░░ the choice between survival ░░░░░░░░ taking a much less ░░░░░░░░ approach to teaching He ░░░░░░░░ control of state universities ░░░░░░░░ put them in foundations ░░░░░░░░ were then run by ░░░░░░░░ allies Is that what ░░░░░░░░ re advocating be done ░░░░░░░░ the United States Vance ░░░░░░░░ Margaret what you re ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ is that universities are ░░░░░░░░ by left wing foundations ░░░░░░░░ re not controlled by ░░░░░░░░ American taxpayer And yet ░░░░░░░░ American taxpayer is sending ░░░░░░░░ of billions of dollars ░░░░░░░░ these universities every single ░░░░░░░░ BRENNAN I don t ░░░░░░░░ taxpayers controlling education necessarily ░░░░░░░░ that what you re ░░░░░░░░ for federal government control ░░░░░░░░ Margaret what I m ░░░░░░░░ for is for taxpayers ░░░░░░░░ have a say in ░░░░░░░░ their money is spent ░░░░░░░░ are part of a ░░░░░░░░ contract in this country ░░░░░░░░ educate our children They ░░░░░░░░ important intellectual property They ░░░░░░░░ a lot of money ░░░░░░░░ of it But if ░░░░░░░░ re not educating our ░░░░░░░░ well and they re ░░░░░░░░ the next generation down ░░░░░░░░ mountains of student debt ░░░░░░░░ they re not meeting ░░░░░░░░ end of the bargain ░░░░░░░░ think it s totally ░░░░░░░░ to say there needs ░░░░░░░░ be a political solution ░░░░░░░░ that problem BRENNAN Well ░░░░░░░░ s universities still attract ░░░░░░░░ from around the world ░░░░░░░░ you went to one ░░░░░░░░ America s very top ░░░░░░░░ But but Vance Look ░░░░░░░░ are still good things ░░░░░░░░ American universities but it ░░░░░░░░ going in the wrong ░░░░░░░░ Margaret BRENNAN But so ░░░░░░░░ Viktor Orban in particular ░░░░░░░░ you know I mean ░░░░░░░░ he rewrote the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ neutered the courts He ░░░░░░░░ tried to control the ░░░░░░░░ These are not necessarily ░░░░░░░░ principles So why would ░░░░░░░░ want to mimic him ░░░░░░░░ Well look I m ░░░░░░░░ endorsing every single thing ░░░░░░░░ Viktor Orban has ever ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ he s ever done ░░░░░░░░ I do think is ░░░░░░░░ the university on the ░░░░░░░░ principle the idea that ░░░░░░░░ should have some influence ░░░░░░░░ how their money is ░░░░░░░░ on these universities it ░░░░░░░░ a totally reasonable thing ░░░░░░░░ I do think that ░░░░░░░░ s made some smart ░░░░░░░░ there that we could ░░░░░░░░ could learn from in ░░░░░░░░ United States BRENNAN Well ░░░░░░░░ was just welcomed at ░░░░░░░░ a Lago And as ░░░░░░░░ know Leader McConnell just ░░░░░░░░ out on the floor ░░░░░░░░ the Senate this past ░░░░░░░░ after Xi Jinping visited ░░░░░░░░ He s trying to ░░░░░░░░ trade deals They re ░░░░░░░░ trade deals not just ░░░░░░░░ Russia but with Iran ░░░░░░░░ because of this McConnell ░░░░░░░░ it should be a ░░░░░░░░ flag for anyone seriously ░░░░░░░░ about competition with China ░░░░░░░░ why take any policy ░░░░░░░░ from a man and ░░░░░░░░ country and a strategy ░░░░░░░░ up to America s ░░░░░░░░ Vance Well look Margaret ░░░░░░░░ is a nation of ░░░░░░░░ million people America is ░░░░░░░░ nation of 330 million ░░░░░░░░ and the most important ░░░░░░░░ in the world I ░░░░░░░░ t think that we ░░░░░░░░ take every cue But ░░░░░░░░ actually have to reject ░░░░░░░░ premise here because why ░░░░░░░░ Viktor Orban getting closer ░░░░░░░░ China In part because ░░░░░░░░ leadership is not making ░░░░░░░░ decisions We are pushing ░░░░░░░░ nations into the arms ░░░░░░░░ the Chinese because we ░░░░░░░░ t make enough stuff ░░░░░░░░ we pursue a ridiculous ░░░░░░░░ policy very often We ░░░░░░░░ to be more self ░░░░░░░░ I don t like ░░░░░░░░ I don t like ░░░░░░░░ China has stolen a ░░░░░░░░ of American jobs The ░░░░░░░░ they ve done it ░░░░░░░░ because American leadership has ░░░░░░░░ bad decisions That s ░░░░░░░░ fault and that s ░░░░░░░░ we can fix as ░░░░░░░░